Even Messier Church

The Covenant Fellowship, the Church of Scotland Evangelical Network, The Presbytery of Lewis and various individual ministers are determined to remain within an apostate denomination to reform it and win it back.

Can I suggest they might start here:

Cairns Church of Scotland, Milngavie, (Presbytery of Glasgow)

THURSDAY  11th June 2015                         

Speaker : Bishop Jack Spong

And just in case you do not know what Spong stands for here are his 12 points for a new reformation:

Twelve points for Reform

1  Theism, as a way of defining God, is dead. So most theological God-talk is today meaningless. A new way to speak of God must be found.

2  Since God can no longer be conceived in theistic terms, it becomes nonsensical to seek to understand Jesus as the incarnation of the theistic deity. So the Christology of the ages is bankrupt.

3  The Biblical story of the perfect and finished creation from which human beings fell into sin is pre-Darwinian mythology and post-Darwinian nonsense.

4  The virgin birth, understood as literal biology, makes Christ's divinity, as traditionally understood, impossible.

5  The miracle stories of the New Testament can no longer be interpreted in a post-Newtonian world as supernatural events performed by an incarnate deity.

6  The view of the cross as the sacrifice for the sins of the world is a barbarian idea based on primitive concepts of God and must be dismissed.

7  Resurrection is an action of God. Jesus was raised into the meaning of God. It therefore cannot be a physical resuscitation occurring inside human history.

8  The story of the Ascension assumed a three-tiered universe and is therefore not capable of being translated into the concepts of a post-Copernican space age.

9  There is no external, objective, revealed standard written in scripture or on tablets of stone that will govern our ethical behavior for all time.

10  Prayer cannot be a request made to a theistic deity to act in human history in a particular way.

11 The hope for life after death must be separated forever from the behaviour control mentality of reward and punishment. The Church must abandon, therefore, its reliance on guilt as a motivator of behaviour.

12 All human beings bear God's image and must be respected for what each person is. Therefore, no external description of one's being, whether based on race, ethnicity, gender or sexual orientation, can properly be used as the basis for either rejection or discrimination.

So here is the challenge.  Do ministers who promote and fete Spong come under the discipline of your denomination or not?  Having seen at the GA that you cannot initiate discipline for sexual immorality, does this now show that you cannot enforce discipline for doctrinal heresy?